Everyone who loves dogs knows that dogs love liver! Treats containing liver abound, recipes for liver “brownies” are perennial favorites (you can find one here on this blog, but there are countless versions) and simple baked treats are a mainstay as “bait” for show dogs and rewards for hard working canines in all kinds of sport and performance work. In home made recipes, some organ meat is always included, to boost nutrient levels, especially Vitamin A, and copper. But how much liver is enough, and is it possible to overdo it? Are all kinds – beef, lamb, chicken, pork – created equal? In this entry we’ll take a little closer look at liver; what it offers your dog, how to prepare it – and why you really can get too much of a good thing.
Let’s start with what’s good about liver, why it should be included in a canine diet, if it’s tolerated.
1) Liver is nature’s most abundant source of Vitamin A, in the most bioavailable form for carnivores. (This is why cod liver oil is so different from fish body oil, the vitamin content).
2) Liver is an excellent source of protein, all the B vitamins, and iron.
3) Some liver is very high in copper, an important nutrient that can be low in home made diets.
4) Oh yes, and dogs love the stuff…can’t forget that one.
Now, what might some of the issues be?
1) Beef liver is very high in copper (yes, this can be a problem if fed too much. We want to hit in around the Recommended Allowance, not,you know, 20 times above it. That carries its own problems)
2) Liver is very high in phosphorus, which we like to watch especially with growth diets, seniors and very carefully with kidney disease.
3) Liver is high in purines, a big no-no for dogs with uric acid stones (especially common in the Dalmatian, and serious stuff): http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=PRINT&A=1683
So, how much is a good amount?
This part can get technical, so bear with me. I don’t, for the record, believe that every meal has to be “perfectly balanced” but I can easily demonstrate how not paying attention and relying on guesswork will create imbalances- which in turn, can have serious backlash over time. It’s good to know what is in our food – not just the toxins, which many are concerned about, but the nutrients! So to figure out how much liver to add, it’s smart to start off calculating your dog’s phosphorus and copper requirements. Then, calculate how much is in the diet. Often, there will be plenty of phosphorus but low copper. Add just enough liver to bring the copper into the recommended range or a little higher. The exceptions to this of course, would be a cancer or renal diet where we need to restrict copper, or of course, any dog with urate stones. Just take a pass in those cases.
In a cooked diet, I generally need to add anywhere from 1 – 5 ounces per week, depending on the size of the dog. I did a St. Bernard diet yesterday and we’re using six ounces of liver; the dog’s recommended allowance is 35 mgs, and the recipe has 36. The dog’s allowance for phosphorus is 14,000 mgs; with the liver, we have 14,079.(this is beef liver I’m referring to here).
To calculate your dogs RA for phosphorus, follow the same basic procedure I’ve referred to in past entries; take the bodyweight in kilograms to the power of 0.75, then multiply by 100. That’s the DAILY recommended allowance. To find the copper recommendation, take the metabolic number as above, and multiply by 0.2, for the daily ideal level. Of course, you just X these levels by 7 to get the weekly amounts.
That’s the easy part. Figuring out what’s in the diet is harder. You can use a tool like nutritiondata, or you can slog it out using the USDA database. In general, my feeling is one ounce a week for a small dog, 2 – 3 for a medium, 4-6 for large and giant breeds. This is not precision nutrition, but it gives an idea of how much we might use in a recipe. I often suggest to clients they reserve the liver I include in their dog’s recipe,and feed as treats. It doesn’t have to go into the batch, just into the dog. 🙂
What about different types of liver? I am often asked if they can be interchanged – and I think, as treats they can ( given I am recommending not using liver in general all the time) but when we’re looking to meet a dietary requirement, different types of liver have different profiles. Here’s a peek at four popular varieties:
Beef Liver
82 grams, cooked weight (this will apply to all varieties)
Calories – 156
Phosphorus- 407 grams (this is substantial, when you consider an equivalent amount of lean muscle meat has about 168 mgs).
Copper– 11.7 mgs (this too is a lot, consider my 72 kg St. Bernard needed only 5 mgs daily.)
Iron – 5.3 mgs
Zinc – 4.3 mgs
Calf’s Liver
Calories – 155
Phosphorus – 377 mgs
Copper – 12.3 mgs
Iron – 4.19 mgs
Zinc – 9.2 mgs
Not much difference other than more zinc. These two are more or less interchangeable. But then there is…
Chicken Liver
Calories-136
Phosphorus – 332 mgs
Copper – 0.4 mgs
Iron – 9.5 mgs
Zinc – 3.26mgs
This is significant particularly if one is adding liver to amp up the copper. Note the higher iron, too; seems like a small difference, but small dogs can really be affected. Not interchangeable with calf’s of beef liver. And then we have…
Lamb Liver
Calories– 180
Phosphorus– 344 mgs
Copper -5.8
Iron– 6.79 mgs
Zinc – 6.47 mgs
Pork Liver
Calories – 135
Phosphorus – 197 mgs
Copper – 0.52 mgs
Iron – 14.7 mgs
Zinc – 5.5mgs
Other differences include Vitamin A, B12 and selenium. In dietary formulation we learn to pay attention to all of these levels, and aim for an optimal range. Very nutrient -dense foods like liver offer great benefits, but we need to use them properly. Liver is not to be fed as a main protein source, but a garnish, an addition, a booster of the nutrients we’ve highlighted here.Now, as TREATS, I feel you’re ok with a healthy dog, to mix liver types up and use judicious amounts. I like to emphasize heart, muscle meat and eggs, so as to minimize the chance of driving some nutrient levels out of balance. But in a recipe, where we are trying to reach specific levels, yes indeed, all liver is not created equal.
A little more on the topic from the wonderful Chris Kresser; liver is very good for us, too. http://chriskresser.com/how-to-eat-more-organ-meats
One last issue – I often hear that “liver is not healthy because it stores the body’s toxins”. Well, not exactly. I will leave you with this great summary from Mark’s Daily Apple. Yes, liver can contain toxins, but not because it “stores” them. Fish (which we will talk about soon) contains a lot more, generally speaking; feed the best quality you can get, not too much, and if you partake of meat, have some yourself. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-the-liver-store-toxins/#axzz2yWsmtSm5
Let me leave you with a liver of another kind – liver-nosed Ridgeback puppy. Can it get any cuter?
Please can you help I have a 12 year old cockapoo ( weighs approx 18 kilo )who suffers with bouts of anaemia since entering her senior years. I feed her a fresh meat and leafy raw veg diet . Can you
recommend how much cooked liver and how frequently I could add this to her diet?
Thank you for you attention ??
I’m having the same problem with my 14 year old poodle. Did anyone ever help you with this? Can you share info with me?
Thank you for setting up this page.
Am in need of your kind advise on following :-
we foster a stray pup , monrel when she was 2-3 months old. she was left on road for 2 day after being hit by car.
she had operation on fractured pelvic , on nerve tablets treatment & to date she is as active as any
furkid her age – estimated around a year old this month.
Her left hind leg was injured too , was under casting treatment but the leg has gone in ‘ side way paw ‘ which she managed it with no issue.
Last week vet informed us she has 3rd grade pateller luxation & need to operate.
we are not keen in terms mainly financially & cost and after operation maintainence.
at this moment we are trying out 1 month supply of :-
VETRA Tricosamine.
your advise on list is much needed with appreciation for any further info to handle this issue.
(1) Do you think operation is best solution in long run ?
(2) Is there hope for lesser damage if we give her home cook food which are benefical to her condition like food which strengthen the bones & produces cartilage to imporve her condition ?
(3) If my Question Nr 2 is feasible , kindly provide me on list on food for this process.
To my understanding chicken feet , chicken liver are beneficial and she should be on low carb diet….she is not overweight —weighs 11.4 KG
Thank you & warmeswt regards
13 year old rescue. .terrier type 48 lbs…diagnosis as diabetic 2 shots daily. 14 mg..have been giving liver with morning meal..he loves it..good idea or not?..and what amount will be healthy
Thanks in advance for the effort.
My doberman is 10 months young and is skinny – 21 kgs weight.
Energetic – runs ( 3 kms ) and jumps in 2 sessions.
I used to feed him 3 meals consisting of curds, rice and soya chunks.
Other than weight addition – he had no issues with the food. Clean yellow potty always.
Vet has advised that i feed him 500 gms of chicken liver ( boiled with a tea spoon of salt and turmeric ) . He now has semi solid potty – so i am trying to add rice, wheat and jowar pan cakes
and maintain the 3 meals.
Is this right ?
Regards
I have an 8/9 week old Chihuahua puppy who weighs 1 pound…He is suffering from severe hypoglycemia…has been hospitalized 1 time due to sugar coma…Picky picky eater…I feed or try to feed every 2/3 hours round the clock…Most successful with boiled chicken and/or whipped cream…Can I try boiled beef liver
How do I cook beef liver for my pups 20and 27 lbs respectively. How much do I give them per week ?
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This is for a cooked diet, what about raw, you probably don’t know about this hey?
Yes, I work with raw diet as well as cooked, and the same values apply. 🙂
What about pork liver ?
will liver worst hurt to feed dogs?
Hi very interesting article, my staffy is 14 and has liver cancer, we are lucky to still have her, we have her scanned every 2 weeks and with her current medication it has not grown for the last 8 months. Shes always been a bit of a fussy eater, we feed her science plan with raw beef, but it’s always when we crumble a little liver that we can guarantee she eats it up. I’m conscious that you think maybe she shouldn’t eat liver in her condition, please let me know your thoughts as I would like to keep her eating thanks Sonia
Where are the answers to all the above questions????
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